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October 06, 2006

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SBW

I feel you. I want to change things but I wonder "how"? The bill that was just signed permits people to be kept in prison even after they have been found not guilty of a crime. I wonder what is the point of the trial if you can continue to keep them imprisoned? I'll vote, but what good will it do? The majority of the Democrats in the Senate voted for the terror/torture bill.

These are definitely dark days for the Republic.

Todd Elliott

Yeah, I hear you. The biggest reason for my inaction is time. I usually shy away from political debates. It seems like the extremeists on either side hype it up to such a point that the majority of us feel like the other side is dead wrong.

There really isn't that much difference between the two parties, until you look at some key issues, but those issues are usually quite flammable.

Yes, we live in a world where we impeach a president for getting some head, and keep a guy in office who lies, goes to war, etc. But the problem is, just about half the country is behind him, and half isn't. It scares me to think about all the terrified, xenophobic, racist people out there.

What terrifies me more than that are the people that just vote along party lines. Or vote what their parents vote. Or beleive what they read in the paper. It goes on.

The Pilot

Speaking of rain, its nice to see that a journalist with some actual integrity has finally stepped up to continue the legacy of Edward R. Murrow. Kieth Olberman is great, and it appears that more are beginning to listen, and agree, with what he says.

Jayne

SBW: Yeah, this post certainly wasn't "the Democrats will save us all!" I just want to see accountability. Fairness and justice (or at least a semblance of that) restored - as it pertains to everyone (our so-called enemies, this administration, detainees, etc.) The current administration must go, though, as they do not act on behalf of a majority of the nation.

Todd: Yes, I think we can discuss most of the issues in a non-partisan way. I am not saying the current administration has to go because they are Republicans, but because they have lied and killed and tortured without satisfactory justification. I also get frustrated by how blindly people vote. Yes, half the world is scared and apathetic, but I believe it's up to each of us to tip the balance.

El Piloto: Yes, Olbermann is refreshing! But (speaking of Murrow) I am a bit annoyed that he uses Murrow's "Good night, and good luck" tagline/signoff. Can't he come up with his own? Like, "Good night, and get those fuckers out of office."?

Mark

Y'all could come to Canada...we'd take you in. However, we do have a right wing PM of our own at the moment. But he is in a minority situation and his popularity is stagnant...if he continues down his current path he will be ousted in the next election. He has even had the audacity to cut adult literacy programs.

timethief

I'm a canuck too and everyone I know here is absolutely scared shitless of Bush the liar and the double-tongued rightwing fanatics that are in power in your huge, powerful and controlling country where the population just reached 300 million.
(1) imprisonment without charges and trials = facist state in contravention of the Geneva agreement and conducting a uni-lateral war without UN sanction
(2) government propaganda designed to delude, deceive and deny truth = brainwashing
(3) weapons of mass destruction = armed forces under the control of right wing nutcase administrations upheld by complacent masses
(4) complacent, consumptive masses, blindly pursuing the american capitalist dream while killing the planet and it's dependent lifeforms = planetary destruction
This may hurt you too hear it so as a friend I'll be one to deliver it - many Canadians believe the real terrorists of today are Bush and his administration. Yes, we are afraid that the american populace will continue to elect pugilistic fundamentalists, who will do anything to maintain power and control over the earth's resources while wrapping themselves in the shroud of christianity's Dominion theology, and that together they will be responsible for destroying this planet.

Enough said ...

Larry Jones

Tomorrow's another day, Jayne. It's you who must keep the flame alive, and I know you will.

Pearl

People fatigue of agitation without focus. It seems to be a higher than normal level of politician is bad mindset. What I don't get is if so many people believe BUsh should be impeached, where's the organized pressure on congress to get things underway? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeach#United_States

Jayne

Mark: It's too cold up there for us and we have work to do here, but thanks so much for the offer! I have loved the time I spent in Canada (just Victoria--a lot when we were living in Washington state--Vancouver, Whistler) good luck with your PM . . .

Timethief: "This may hurt you too hear it so as a friend I'll be one to deliver it - many Canadians believe the real terrorists of today are Bush and his administration." . . . and here I thought you actually read my blog now and again ; ) it doesn't hurt me to hear this, believe me, many of us Americans feel the same way, my dear. We will and must persevere.

Larry: Well thank you, Mr. Jones. Likewise. We must, if only for our own sanity!

Pearl: Yes, fatiguing, indeed. When I managed employees, I'd always encourage them to please "turn complaints into specific requests." I guess you missed my impeachment post earlier in the year http://happy.blogs.com/jayne_says/2006/01/impeach_bush_bl.html ; ) but until we have a more balanced Congress, many of us are spinning our wheels, waiting for next month's election. Then, assuming democrats regain Congress, the focus will become aparant. I hope!

Shephard

My response to it was similar. And yet I was so happy to actually hear someone verbally lambaste the president. At least while that liberty is still ours. I always try to remember that no matter what the upward or downward spiral appears to be, it can change in a heartbeat. Gandhi is right. Tyrants always fall. But I was just so glad to actually hear the words "Liar" and "Bush" together by a credible journalist ...on TV!! Eat that, FOX!
~S :)

jules

Yes, what timethief said. The question is not what to do to cope with this information, but what we can do to change the situation we all find ourselves in now. It seems that there are not too many honest for the people by the people folks left in Washington. How can we, I, you, one person, make a change? Who do we trust for our information? Mainstream Media? Ha, right. The candidates themselves? Again, right. Where can we go for honest reporting of the news, not their opinion, honest reporting of what a candidate REALLY will do, not just what they say they will so we'll vote for them?
All I have is questions and more questions. No one seems to have too many answers.

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